Bondage

[Steele]

Achtung! Boring philosophical rant forthcoming!

Is there anyone out there that would debate that freeze and stuck both belong, if labels had to be applied (which they don't), under the general category of bondage? Compared to say, ropes, stuck is just a little more creative (not to say ropes can't be beautifully applied), messy, and tricky. Freeze/robot play is just more cerebral (i.e. you are using your mind to create the ultimate bondage, in that nothing can move, or must move in a certain way.) If you have plastic wrap holding your hands to your waist or rubber cement doing the same, the only difference is tactile, right?
And if bondage is about the giving/receiving of control to another, then that is what unites our little community.

That said, why do I think freeze/hypnosis/bondage can be so sexy, while I have no real interest in stuck?
(Not sure why I think about these things. I actually did poorly in philosophy in college)

Steele

[halsca]

To me stuck is bondage only the resraints are a bit different and yes I've been known to play a few rope games. While I find the topics of hypnosis and mind control interesting they do nothing in the way of getting my motor running, if you get my drift.

I do however see some entertainment value of the freeze thing though, takes a lot of body and mind control to do it right but that does nothing in terms of “stimulation” for me at all.

[Phantom of the Frozen One]

Steele,

I agree with you that freeze/robot play would be the ultimate in bondage, being allowed to trap someone in their own mind. So, while I'm no fan of labels either, I think you are quite correct in putting freeze/stuck/robot play under the umbrella of bondage.

Until next time fetish fans,
[glow=White,10,300]Phantom of the Frozen One[/glow]

[Miss Luna]

[glow=yellow,2,300]Ok, I gotta admit... I'm into the Leather & Chain stuff...

Stuck can apply to Bondage but I don't believe Freeze could. It COULD however fall into the BDSM and so could Stuck.

Being someone who has studied my favorite fetish of being tied, and owned... I can say that Freeze or Hypnosis are not Bondage but they CAN be a BDSM as a Master/Slave game.

Not all Bondage is BDSM and not all BDSM is Bondage but it is part of the catagory OF BDSM. [/glow]

[Steele]

Hmmm. I know someone who is going to be a very lucky man in a few weeks!

Good points all, since I especially like to hear from people that take their bondage fun seriously. As for me, I've got more philosophizing to do now.

Steele

[Miss Luna]

[glow=yellow,2,300]I've said it before... and I'll say it again...

I'm a friggen GEEK!

As for he being a lucky man... I donno... I feel more lucky than he. ;D[/glow]